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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.24 13:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
...breach of his privacy AND possibly of the EULA.
LOL what? 
CCPDev> Good news everyone. We released a tool that allows anyone full access to your in game Eve mails through your full API key.
player123> Great! I'll start using is right away.
CCPDev> You can't.
player123> why not?
CCPDev > Because it violates the EULA.
You are making a vield legal thread against Cosmo. Don't do that. I understand that you don't want your super secret stuff out in the open for the world to see. Fair enough. All you had to say was "Cosmo I sent you some info in confidence in game and I expect you to keep it that way."
Of course you don't really believe it to be a violation of the EULA anyways. Otherwise you would turn down doing full-API audits on the grounds they could be a possible violation of the EULA.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.24 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
If I release my full API code, what are the dangers to my account?
The crappy thing is it exposes your in game Eve mails. CCP is changing the API to be more granular so can toggle the mails on or off. This is my big complaint with the current API system. What isn't clear to me is whether deleted mails still show via the API. Someone else will have to chime in over other security concerns.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.25 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
In any case I got my answer off a petition to a GM: posting in game mails and chatlogs is not permitted.
It's not permitted to be posted on the eve forums. You can post the information on pastebin, your blog, your FB page, or anywhere else you like.
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Giving a full API key to unknowns exposes to the possibility of the contents being posted on the forums, therefore the reply applies.
Emphasis mine. The same 'possibility' exists whether the recipient is 'known' or 'unkown.' Please point me to the part of the EULA that says it's ok to disseminate Eve mails to 'known' persons but forbidden to send them to 'unkown' persons. You are clinging to the argument that it's somehow against the EULA players to send full API to people you don't trust and simultaniously state that it's perfectly legit to send full API keys to you personally. It's either OK or not OK to send out full API info to third parties. It cannot be both. Pick a side of the fence and stick with it because you are digging yourself an ever deeper hole by trying to play both sides.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.25 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Grimhowl
I don't believe VV is trying to imply that one is against EULA and the other isn't.
From post #10 of this thread:
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Giving out a full API key to unauthorized 3rd party will be a breach of his privacy AND possibly of the EULA.
From post #16:
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
As you may see by reading ANY of my recent (months?) audits, I always add a disclaimer about how I am against API mail phishing and will never read and much less post any mail.
And from post #66
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Giving a full API key to unknowns exposes to the possibility of the contents being posted on the forums, therefore the reply applies.
Clearly she believes it's against the EULA for anyone to send their full API to an 'uknown' third party unless that third party happens to be her.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.25 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ave Volta
The fact of the matter is that CCP also gave players a tool to intentionally expose this information at their discretion to the public at large, with the intentional side effect being the exposure of personal in-game correspondence.
^^ this
Originally by: Estel Arador
VV thinks all evemails are private and subject to EU privacy laws so they cannot be made public, with of course one exception (all rules have an exception), and that's when he's doing it.
^^ and this
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.25 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Edwin Rothbard on 25/02/2011 20:53:57
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
^^ and this
Prove I posted an ingame mail? I don't want to think that all you can do is to quote someone else's opinions like a parrot.
First you attack my ability to read english then you call me a parrot. You might want to look at this page.
You don't appear to understand the meaning of 'third party' and 'public' when it comes to private communications. If player1 and player2 have a private conversation anyone later given the text of that exchange is both the 'third party' AND the 'public.' You seem to think that if player2 sends the contents of the private conversation to unrelated player3 that's all fine and dandy as long as YOU are player3.
It doesn't matter if player3 is you, some 'unkown,' or someone's FB page in all three examples they are the public third party. You are of the mistaken belief that you are really just player2.5 and that it's ok for YOU to have access to private communications as long as you don't further disseminate it to others. There's no player2.5 here only 1/2/3 and you are player3 everytime you accept someone's full API regardless of how trustworthy you claim to be.
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